"Probably, I'm never going to change," Marco Silva says, laughing at himself.
Three years ago, we were sat in this same room at Fulham's training ground, and he suggested, in time, he would find balance to his all-in approach to his job. That he would find a way to switch off.
But here we are again, three years on, and his intensity, work ethic and passion is as strong as ever.
He has now come to the conclusion that: "Even with 10 more years, or 15 years I'm not going to change."
It means too much. "My job is the way I live something that I love, football," he says.
"I don't know another way to be in football, another way to be every single day with my players, another way to make them better every single day and to make the club progress and grow."
Silva's passion for pushing Fulham forwards is a clear theme throughout our conversation. His contract may be up in the summer and the new deal offered to him remains unsigned on the table, but Fulham fans can be encouraged by the wholeheartedness he continues to pour into his work.
But certainly, now is not the moment for letting up.
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